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Published on November 1, 2013
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Some cool updates on BASILRATHBONE.NET this month. Including new information on Rathbone’s various homes in the UK., and this pic of Ouida’s “country house on the Thames” where she and Basil (and Jack Miltern) spent the summer of 1924.

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  1. NeveR says

    Apparently some of you are having problems with comments again, and you are getting the “this comment could not be posted” message repeatedly. It’s noted. I have no idea how to fix it. But it will probably resolve itself. Apologies for the inconvenience.

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  2. Erica says

    Your blog is stunning. One of the most visually beautiful and well composed blogs I have ever seen. I’m also a new fan of Basil’s so you can imagine this find has made my day

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  3. Hannah says

    I know there are other Ida Lupino fans here, so you better run over to Youtube asap and watch this documentary about her. It’s very rare because she was very private and left very little personal information.

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    • Amy says

      OMG. Look what else I found. Ida and Basil in WUTHERING HEIGHTS on radio! I’m crying. I’m so happy. It’s from 1940, so after they were in THE ADVENTURES OF SHERLOCK HOLMES together.

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      • Ellen Foley says

        Baz & Ida should’ve been perfect in Frenchman’s Creek,maybe as Dona and Rock (as he played in film).

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    • Hally says

      “Life is so short, and so difficult at best, that we should at least be allowed to do the work we want to do.” — Ida Lupino

      She had so much pain. More than most people realize I am thinking .

      Crying now.

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      • the countess says

        Boy i agree with her statement ..but how many of us actuly get to do the work we WANT to? I dont i work for bread and payments.But 1 time a year i get to do a job i like.Acting.The reason I do reenacting is it feeds that empty hole inside of me.I can be an actress a costuem designer and a singer at events. But i get up in the am and go to work for a paycheck.Bet she felt like that to.Any job you dont WANT to do isnt a calling it’s work.

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        • Marcia Jessen says

          I agree completely. I go to work because I have to pay the bills and keep a roof over my head. I think people who can get paid for doing what they love are really lucky.

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          • Brad says

            She’s entirely correct though (Ida I mean). We should be able to do the work we want. So much human potential must currently be wasted serving functions that are not needed. The world is just not rational in its use of human resources. Ida herself spent very little time doing work she wanted to do.

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    • Erica says

      She seems like a very unusual woman. And was obviously very talented. But she couldn’t pick men could she 😉

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    • Roberta says

      Thank you for finding this Hannah! Absolutely fascinating. So that’s what “Mary” looks like. I had such a picture of her in my mind.

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    • Ellen Foley says

      I agree,the least Ida Lupino is owed is an honorary Oscar.What a beautiful woman,and a loving tribute on Biography!How did I miss this posting the first time around I wonder.

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  4. the countess says

    Ok all you dectives out there..how bout a few MOOR addys for the Rathbone family..in 1887 Edger was living at 2 great george st. joint house westminster st. margarets ward 3.[thats from electorial registers].in 1913, 14, 15, Edgar is listed as living at 24 hendrick ave ,wandsworth clapham.[ditto electorial registers]in1918,its 509 abode 24,hendrick ave Balham[probly Clapham miss pelled] in 1919-1920 getting mail at 20 tennian Mansions,Queens Club Gdns. W in 1924 Edith Villas Rd,listed as addy.Also have Annie Barbra at 24 hendrick Ave. Wandsworth Comons Surry[from will probate,so that would be her last home addy]
    Weedy addy in obit was 10023 ny ny[but that was all no st name could be zipcode?] Basil and Marion were married at the church of St. Luke, parish of Battersea, London.his addy listed as 24 Hendric ave [same as all the others] Marions was 29 Bassaley Rd. Newport Mons.
    Basils army papers list his addy as 24 Henari [not my mispelling here] ave.Wandsworth Comon Lon.SW

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    • the countess says

      cut offWhen Basil crossed in 1913 with Franks troop.his next o kin listed as father E.R.[not my mistake]Rathbone,24 Hendrick Ave Wands Worth Lon.
      When Edgar aplied for Johns Medal he won the addy was c/o[care of] Royal Colonial Institue,Northumberland Ave. W[some squigill that i have nothing on my keyboard that it resembles sorta like @&] 2.
      passanger list in 1929 Basils addy is 7[or]9 Hanley st.London[couldnt tell from there orignal copy if 7or 9]
      When Basil was working as insurance clerk his addy was.196 Green Lanes [something i couldnt make out] Finsburypark, Stoke Newington
      I also have a girls school addy for Bea fron 1911 cences,under Miss Davenport, Fairlawn,1 Granville rd.Eastbourn Sussx[this is interesting as she is listed as TEACHER/PUPIL.]
      And Beas last addy that i can find is a bit mysterous it reads N.B.S.A..Guraw plc.[bad copy could be wrong my best guess[ London COAEL E.G.[?]
      Johns last addy.From his will probate. was 20 Tennyson Mansions Queens Club Gradens,West Kingsington,Middelsex. thats all for now I might have moor..but all that was in the same folder. Have fun finding them.

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      • the countess says

        Oh and WHY did I wright down all those addys? When doing genealogy if you cant find the person you want try and find the family. usuly they can lead you to what you want to know.PS. Wright it down I’m NOT re-wrighting ALL of that..

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    • the countess says

      Hold on Why i wonder is Edgars addy dif at times then the rest of the family? its dif in 1919 and 1920 then dif again in 1924. I’ll have to check what his addy is in his probate. hummm

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        • the countess says

          NOPE! so DONT! if you click on that link.It’s a grusume pic..If You do rember I WARNED YOU! any how I guess you cant link by page. drat! the page you want is listed on the left side as What did daddy do in the great war. but I cant find anyway to get around the grusume front page to link to it.

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          • NeveR says

            Yeah the website uses frames, which means each page loads inside the same URL. Slightly old fashioned and also annoying. Countess is correct BTW – the pic you come to on that link is pretty graphic and gruesome. So viewer discretion is advised

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    • Claude Rains says

      I actually live in Balham, so I’ll try and elucidate. It’s complicated. Balham is a quite loosely defined area of London and is part of both a portion of Clapham and Wandsworth, so the different terminologies just reflect the loose geography. Hendrick Ave is probably in Balham, in Clapham, and in Wandsworth. Though most of Clapham is actually in Lambeth. (I told you it was complicated). Balham has been gentrified now, of course, and is full of lawyers (like me) but in the 1920s I am not sure how wealthy it was. How well off was Edgar in later life? Did he have to live off a pension or was he getting an income from his very VERY wealthy family? If not, I wonder why not?

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      • the countess says

        Thanks Claud! Well not sure what mineing enginers made cir turn of the cent I’ll have to recheck cencus to see if it says how much prop is worth.or if says how much money the person has. in USA some cences [taken every 10 year here] say some dont. I doubt they would live in a dump. He had enough money to send at least 2 of the kids to privet school[guessing Repton is a privet school.] How close are you to 24 Hendrick? what does the place look like now? I tryed to google it one time came up with nothing. Is that just 1house or an apt? or what on brit comes they call simi detached? How far from GreenBank Cottage is it? How far from Repton? Inquireing minds want to know.

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        • Marcia Jessen says

          Countess, go to basilrathbone.net to see pics of 24 Hendrick today (courtesy of Google maps) and a map of England that shows the locations of Repton and Liverpool (where Greenbank cottage is) in relation to London. Thanks for confirming that 24 Hendrick was Basil’s parent’s home. So I wonder where he lived with Marion and baby Rodion.

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          • the countess says

            Yea, dont know why I didnt think to check that Marcia..guess I was tired last night.I came home from work yesterday evening layed down on the bed and woke up 3 hours later and didnt rember falling asleep..I’ll question the usual suspects and see if I can shake an addy out of them for him and Marion..I have one for where she was living when she died..wonder if it was the same place as when she was married to Basil..like when they got the D.I.V.O.R.C.E. [sing it Tammy] he got freedom she got the house? I’m kinda limeted by what cenceses for England I can get..Passports..might find an addy there.

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  5. the countess says

    I suppose Jack was the “chaprone”…Spending a whole summer in a country house on the Thaems ..with Basil. HOW ROMANTIC..you bet i’d need a chaprone.If only just so we could ditch him.Nudge nudge wink wink…More seriously does anyone know WHERE Whipporwill cotage was located?..on the Thames covers ALOT of milage. Mabey Basil could go and get pics of it now…If it is still standing?

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  6. Peg says

    So, he and Ouida spent the whole summer in the same house, but she wouldn’t stay in the same hotel as him before they were married because she didn’t believe in sex before marriage?

    I wonder if that whole no sex before marriage was just added to Basil’s memoirs by Ouida because she thought it made her seem more classy.

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    • GRETCHEN says

      “No sex BEFORE marriage”?? Heck, Basil and Ouida never had sex AFTER marriage!! (Well…sometimes they did; if he bribed her first.) 😉

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      • rosebette says

        Joan Crawford’s dress from Mildred Pierce is selling for around the same price. But new stuff like Jack Nicholson’s suit from Chinatown and some of the Batman costumes are going for 20-30 grand.

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  8. MikuFan says

    …I went to Connaught square again the other day, and another spooky thing happened to me! ^_^

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      • MikuFan says

        Sure! ^_^
        My Nan has pretty good psychic abilities, and when I said about visiting Basils old place she told me she had a feeling about number 27.
        So me and my Mum went there the other day for a look around, and I felt like someone kept staring at me, and then it stopped really suddenly, right outside of number 27. :3

        My Mum was pretty freaked out by it, and the Policeman who was stood there (Tony Blair lives in the square and the Policeman keeps watch outside of his house) kept giving us strange looks, (Not surprising since we’d been staring at number 27 for a good few minutes 😀 ) so we started walking away, and the feeling came back, only this time I also had the feeling somebody was actually stood on the side of the road watching me.

        …..So either I’m suffering from some sort or paranoia, or something strange happened to me. (Or perhaps where my Nan actually said number 27 I sort of tricked myself into thinking everything)

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